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E28: Introspection 101 - Would You Rather Travel to the Future or the Past, and What Does That Say About You?

March 22, 2023 Adeel and Ant Episode 28
E28: Introspection 101 - Would You Rather Travel to the Future or the Past, and What Does That Say About You?
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E28: Introspection 101 - Would You Rather Travel to the Future or the Past, and What Does That Say About You?
Mar 22, 2023 Episode 28
Adeel and Ant

Today, we'll be discussing a thought-provoking question: if given the opportunity, would you rather travel to the future or the past? And what does your choice say about you?

In our first "off the mic" episode, we examine the motivations behind each choice. For example, those who choose to travel to the past might be motivated by a desire to understand history, or to witness key moments in human history firsthand. Alternatively, they may wish to revisit a certain time in their own personal past, perhaps to relive fond memories or correct past mistakes. On the other hand, those who opt for a journey into the future may be driven by a sense of curiosity or excitement about the unknown. They may also hope to gain insight into what the future holds, or to see how the world has changed over time.

But beyond these surface-level motivations, our choice of time-travel destination may also reveal deeper aspects of our personality and worldview. For example, those who choose the past may be more nostalgic or sentimental, valuing tradition and history. They may also be more focused on the past than the future, perhaps feeling a sense of dissatisfaction or disillusionment with the present. In contrast, those who choose the future may be more forward-thinking, open-minded, and optimistic. They may also be more inclined to take risks and embrace change.

So, which would you choose: a journey to the past or the future? And what does your choice reveal about your personality and outlook on life? As with any introspective question, there are no right or wrong answers, only insights to be gained.  So join us as we go back and forth on this topic to figure a little bit more about ourselves, and in doing so, we hope you too will figure out a little bit more about yourself.

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Today, we'll be discussing a thought-provoking question: if given the opportunity, would you rather travel to the future or the past? And what does your choice say about you?

In our first "off the mic" episode, we examine the motivations behind each choice. For example, those who choose to travel to the past might be motivated by a desire to understand history, or to witness key moments in human history firsthand. Alternatively, they may wish to revisit a certain time in their own personal past, perhaps to relive fond memories or correct past mistakes. On the other hand, those who opt for a journey into the future may be driven by a sense of curiosity or excitement about the unknown. They may also hope to gain insight into what the future holds, or to see how the world has changed over time.

But beyond these surface-level motivations, our choice of time-travel destination may also reveal deeper aspects of our personality and worldview. For example, those who choose the past may be more nostalgic or sentimental, valuing tradition and history. They may also be more focused on the past than the future, perhaps feeling a sense of dissatisfaction or disillusionment with the present. In contrast, those who choose the future may be more forward-thinking, open-minded, and optimistic. They may also be more inclined to take risks and embrace change.

So, which would you choose: a journey to the past or the future? And what does your choice reveal about your personality and outlook on life? As with any introspective question, there are no right or wrong answers, only insights to be gained.  So join us as we go back and forth on this topic to figure a little bit more about ourselves, and in doing so, we hope you too will figure out a little bit more about yourself.

Support the Show.

Visit our website
Follow us on Instagram
Listen on your favorite podcast platform
Like this show? Please leave us a review here!

Adeel  0:09  
What's up friends, welcome to another episode of calm Talks. My name is deal. And I'm here alongside my co host, Dan, we're here to help you lead a life of peace and progression, one calm talk at a time, bringing to you tonight a very, very special episode. This is an off the mic session. And just to give you the backdrop, and now we're just chatting over here, we had just finished recording our episode for the next week. And we're just having a sec discussion right now. So there's off the mic. And for you, we're bringing you some behind the scenes content. So Andy, and I really get into some deep discussions every now and then we're kind of susceptible to that. And we were chatting about right now was, if you could choose between traveling to the future, or traveling to the past, which of those would you choose? And there's reasons for both right? And they want to clarify on what you would choose now 

Ant  1:00  
You know, you know, because we literally had to build this conversation off the mic. Sure. I'm going to ask you, and I already said what I was gonna say, I'm going to ask you what you would say cuz I didn't hear your answer. I paused before you gave your answer. And I was like, let's just have this session off the mic. So you go first, this time, 

Adeel  1:16  
There's a very part of me that wants to choose the past. Because I've always liked shows on history. Like, even if it's movies on history, those are the ones I like, actually don't like a lot of the Star Trek and Star Wars them kind of shows sci fi stuff. Yeah, I'm not really into that. But I do really enjoy historical movies, historical shows where I kind of learned something over there. But then there's a part of me, which likes excitement likes adventure. And I think it's more adventurous to travel into the future. Bar. The reason which I would choose going into the future will be because I'm really curious about where we end up.

Ant  2:00  
Now, I don't even want to know where we ended up.

Adeel  2:03  
Yeah, you have high hopes? Yeah, no.

Ant  2:06  
Problem. If I, if I came back from traveling the future, I think I would be depressed.

Adeel  2:11  
That's a good point. Right. Like, if you travel into the future, would you come back?

Ant  2:16  
I mean, I mean, in the question we're asking, right, I'm assuming we're coming back? Sure.

Adeel  2:19  
Fine. We can do either scenario, right. Can we agree that if we couldn't travel back to the present time, we would just go to the future? Can we agree on that?

Ant  2:28  
I mean, it depends where in the past has a point doesn't depend on the past where I'd go, because I think the puzzle was more difficult in the current day, generally. Yeah. Yeah, I know, for all cases, but genuinely, I think that's

Adeel  2:40  
true for the average person, the past was a lot tougher than it is for the average person today.

Ant  2:47  
I think that's true. So if I could choose, if I had to stay in one place, I will probably stay in the future. That's true. But if I could come back, I will go back into the past.

Adeel  2:55  
And that's interesting. I like I will go to the future, because I want to kind of drive some flying cars on it to see what we can do with all the technology that we can build, I can see how AI is taking over right now with Chad GPT. And what it's capable of it is remarkably realistic in what kind of content it provides, and the answers that it provides today. If that's possible today, what is going to be possible in 1000 years,

Ant  3:22  
you're honestly this sounds a bit morbid. You're assuming we're gonna be here in 1000 years. I don't know man, the way the human race is, I feel like everybody wants to chunk wants to tear chunks out of each other. I don't know. I don't even know if that's a fair assumption that we're gonna be here in 1000 years.

Adeel  3:36  
Imagine a travel like 1000 years in the future, and there's nothing there. The world has been wiped out and human civilization is restarting. Yeah. And they're building pyramids 10,000 years from now,

Ant  3:45  
using sound.

Adeel  3:49  
And the cycle repeats, right? I don't know man. I think there's there's an uncertainty about the future, which is more exciting to me. I could get by with going into the past as well, for sure. But if I had to choose one, I might just lean towards moving to traveling to the future mean,

Ant  4:05  
what do you think you're going to see if you're going to the future?

Adeel  4:07  
As I said, like flying cars, it'd be robots delivering all sorts of food to my of home. There were no will not be any service. Everything will be automated. We're going to have mechanical bees, like in the Black Mirror episode that they show.

Ant  4:21  
Yes. Wow. And when I just, I just can't, it doesn't feel human, that what you're describing to me just doesn't feel human,

Adeel  4:28  
but is going to be here. Like even with CRISPR the gene editing software that they've they've already building and they're working on. You can cure all sorts of genetic diseases. You can fix all sorts of hereditary diseases. So that's possible today. In like 100 years, you even maybe even 50 years, you could probably change your art colors. You can change your height which I know you might be interested in

Ant  4:57  
no need

Adeel  4:58  
Amen. I'm just trying to tell you what to do. So you'd go to the past. Yeah,

Ant  5:06  
we go there, right? How far in the future would you want to go?

Adeel  5:09  
That's a good question. Assuming I agree with you, I think there's a good chance that we won't survive 1000 years. I agree with that. Actually,

Ant  5:16  
I don't want to be morbid, but the truth is, man is that the world is constantly at war right now. Where in our world is at war, to some degree, especially some countries, obviously, you can say are at war, the world seems to be getting more and more divisive. For whatever reason, whether that be politically or just day to day, just how we define a lot of things is becoming very nuanced. It feels like the world is getting more more divisive. I can't imagine, in 1000 years, what that could look like, hopefully, we do a massive U turn and everybody starts being in harmony with each other, hopefully, but based on human history, doesn't seem to be that's the human way. It always seems to be it's about conquering, you know, taking over lands taking resources. Everybody's always fighting for something in 1000 years. I don't want to be morbid, but I don't know how what our terms of survival are unless we're into you know, galactic species or something like that. Wish to be fair, I can actually see happening.

Adeel  6:15  
Elon is gonna make it happen, man. He's on and he's on the mission. They're all

Ant  6:19  
on the mission is him Elon, there's the Jeff Bezos

Adeel  6:23  
is he trying to do it? I thought he was just going there for himself for his own. Because he I think he's bored now with his life. He'd retired and he's just like, Alright, cool. I'll go to space. I

Ant  6:30  
think the plan is to always the plans to make money, right? I think that's the plan. So I'm assuming they're gonna want to like, do people get people to do holidays up there? or some shit by

Adeel  6:41  
the biggest stunt in the world? Yeah. Imagine Instagramming. On vacation, you know, having my vacation in fucking Mars.

Ant  6:49  
I don't know my mom's but he definitely would take them to like to space for like some sort of like experience with what we call, would you travel the space? Bro? I think right now. Yeah. When they go to space, what they really do is exit over there or actually go into like, deep space. That's different than when you exit the orbit of the Earth. You're like, I think you're free from this gravitational pull. Sure. But you don't like going to the moon or going on the planet. You're just in that space between the planet.

Adeel  7:18  
Yeah, but you can see the earth right from the from the shuttle, that will be sick.

Ant  7:22  
That'd be fucking sad. Let's do that. Yeah,

Adeel  7:24  
imagine that. So that was you and

Ant  7:27  
I if we would we endorsed that I would like to do that. I would do that. That means we implicitly want Jeff Bezos to be to be intergalactic fucking doing this Blue Origin thing that every whatever is cool.

Adeel  7:39  
I think they'll all do it. Man. I do agree with you. Even though it's a wild concept for me to wrap my head around, it's really hard for me to fathom that. There's one thing if we go there for travel, and then come back. But if we're actually inhabiting other planets in the solar system, that's just beyond my imagination.

Ant  7:57  
But the thing is, is they already aren't doing that, right? Like, what's the point of going, Okay, right now, it might start as like, I'm standing around going for this experience. But eventually, it's gonna turn to populating a different planet, especially when the resources on this planet right now, and they are running out. We're consuming this planet so quickly, you know, it's heard, like on the news this week, or something along the lines of the polar ice caps have melted, the forests have ever in recorded history this past year, with a world of potentially could be flooded, the biodiversity will be plummeted. You're gonna need to go to Ghana, not going to have to go. But you could adapt life in another planet. Because we felt this was so much.

Adeel  8:35  
I think that's another reason why I would want to travel to the future. If I can travel into the future, let's say 1000 years. By that point, we would have figured out interplanetary existence for human civilization. I would even say like, I'll probably go like two or 300 years ahead of time. If I had to pick a timeframe. I think that's a reasonable timeframe. Because I'll be honest, I probably don't know much about what happened beyond the past two or 300 years, that's still feels pretty recent to me. Anything beyond that? I'm like, that's way too old. I don't really care for it. What happened after the 1800s? Okay, give a shit about it a little bit. Beyond that don't care. So the same, the same concept. I will go to 300 years ahead. I think there's a lot that will accomplish in that.

Ant  9:15  
And then the industrial revolution happened like 1800 or something.

Adeel  9:18  
Yeah, something like that. 1856

Ant  9:20  
I'm gonna Google it right now. I hope it's 1856 span from the 1760s 1840. Okay, I

Adeel  9:26  
was off by like, four years.

Ant  9:32  
How long ago was that? Right? That was like, three or four years ago. Yeah, Max. So imagine that 300 years what has happened in the next 200 years? When that you just said we have a robot so given us answers, but in the more we could like chat, GBT Yeah, you're right. 300 years is seems like it doesn't seem like a big period of time in the history of the human or the history of Earth. But right now, that'd be significant jumps in next 300 years,

Adeel  9:59  
for sure. Because I think Our growth is also exponential now, right with technology with it with AI, I think our growth is going to just be much faster than it was from 1700s to modern day is going to be a lot faster going from today to 300 days

Ant  10:13  
ago when we were kids. We had the dial up internet, good old days, and your landline would stop working.

Adeel  10:19  
The sound that it will make noise. Yeah. And then, you know, one

Ant  10:22  
could call your house phone. Now we don't even have house phones. And we have the internet in our pocket. That's our lifetime. Yeah, that's that's been like 25 years,

Adeel  10:32  
dude, we've had this conversation, like the first video game that was created was Pong, which was just like on a screen there was like this ball jumping from left to right. And you're just playing with the bar, basically trying to keep the ball on the table for the poem. Today, we you can put on virtual headsets, and you're actually in the video game yourself.

Ant  10:51  
Yes, is wild. And if I think about the future, I think another thing that would come is our ability to live longer. People always pushing the boundaries of human life. Go back 100 years, you were lucky to live to four years old. Now the average age for someone to die in like the Western world 83 and 86 for a man or woman respectively. Was

Adeel  11:12  
it that recent? I know that the average age was like 40, but even as 100 years, but

Ant  11:16  
I need another Google to be honest. All right.

Adeel  11:18  
Let's check it. Let's fact check. Average age for what 100 years ago was a 40.

Ant  11:24  
Now I can maybe I'll go a little bit wrong. Yeah, I was gonna say though, the life expectancy in Maine, this is Google right? In mid Victorian period was not markedly different from what it is today apparently was about 75 to 73. For men and women.

Adeel  11:39  
I was gonna say 40 might be like, a couple of centuries ago, before we had like modern medicine. I mean, what's the stat about like, when the Spanish Flu happened, I think like millions of people died. Like it was like 10% of the human population.

Ant  11:53  
I don't know about that. I asked another Google job. But apparently, right. For the most of human history, life expectancy has, has been short, perhaps 25 years for hunter gatherers. And about 37 years for residents of England in 1700 70. Knows

Adeel  12:08  
About 300 years ago.

Ant  12:10  
Yeah,

Adeel  12:11  
we've accomplished a lot, man. And I don't know, I'm curious where we can take this, there's so much more that is going to happen. A lot of it, we can't even imagine. Some of it honestly, like, I was really impressed by the Black Mirror episodes on Netflix, you know, me, I don't really watch TV or anything like that. But those, that series I actually really enjoyed. It's kind of dark. It's not for the faint of heart. But it's kind of a look into the future. But it's still plausible that all of that happens. Like in one of those episodes, you can only get into certain restaurants, if you have a social score, that's high enough. And even if you look at it today, is this someone who was on Instagram, they have a huge following. They can cut the liner restaurant and you know, we get away with the recipe without having a reservation and everything like that. So kind of already does work like that today. But in the future, it will actually be like a person has a score from like zero to five. And if you're zero because your ship person or like one star that you don't get accepted into common services, and

Ant  13:12  
maybe isn't.

Isn't the how you get into Soho House. 

Adeel  13:14  
Yeah

Ant  13:16  
Am i lying, right. You have to be like some someone famous. So

Adeel  13:20  
Soho House is nice, though. 

Ant  13:21  
Yeah, it's nice. 

Adeel  13:22  
Yeah. You bet. Yeah. Yeah. Big man

Ant  13:26  
That's why you don't have to be six foot. No, but really, it does work like that. Even right now. Like we're seeing it right now. I agree.

Adeel  13:35  
Yeah. So that's why a lot of it is going to happen. It's just about when just about one. So when in a few 100 years. I think that's interesting. The counter argument is if you want to travel to the past, right? How far back would you go in the past,

Ant  13:53  
you've had to stay in, in either period of time, I would stay in the future. Because I think genuinely speaking, the quality of life would probably be better. Based on like how human history has gone, right? It's arguably gotten better over time earlier. But if I could go into a period of time and come back and only do one trip, I would go into the past and come back to the present day. So I can teach you what we've learned. I guess you could argue like a TV what I learned in the future, too, but I don't know, I feel like comments on me do like mental health issues. Because if I go into the past, I could see all the stuff that happened in the past. And you just unearth some history, you know, some mysteries we just don't know. 

Adeel  14:33  
And I know you're a history buff, because we were chatting about this off the mic. What period will be your favorite to go to

Ant  14:39  
this and I would love to go right to a lot of different periods. I would love to see like the ancient Greek civilizations of the world. I would love to see them. Whether that be the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Mayans. But me personally, I would actually if I could go safely. I want to go to like prehistory to see the dinosaur era. Me personally, I want to see that the safely

Adeel  14:59  
is big caveat. Yeah, I

Ant  15:01  
mean, I got to get back grab for this trip to the present day. So

Adeel  15:04  
hopefully, I'll have my fingers crossed.

Ant  15:08  
If I could, and obviously go back, obviously will happen to hit go. If I could come back and you know, obviously one piece, I will definitely go back way, way, way back into the past. Because it's unimaginable to me that these things walk the earth. We know it's true. We've dug up the bones on a we but you know, paleontologist dig up the bones. It's true. We don't really know what they look like, we don't really know how to interact, we don't really know like the animal behavior and nothing like that. Like I was saying, you know, there's some research now. Well, that's not me floating around like the scientific community. But about the time the T Rex apparently is the biggest, most ferocious dinosaur. But apparently, arguments just say there was just a scavenger. Because, you know, it didn't have arms that were usable. It had a massive like, no, so can snorting from hundreds of miles away. It could use its size to cover land really quickly. And obviously, cuz it was so big it could you know, fend off other predators. So the arguments that say for all these different reasons are actually more of a scavenger who knows, it'd be actually really cool to see what they how these animals behaved, what they look like, we don't know what they look like in the movies. They got scales. But truth is that close cousin is a bird, right? So maybe they had feathers. We just don't know. These things are just fascinating. Just to think about like, what could that be like? I don't know. For me, that's just a period of time where it's almost unimaginable.

Adeel  16:31  
I will go back as long as I can hear the Jurassic Park theme song playing in the background.

Ant  16:37  
There's not gonna be no theme music. Screaming

Adeel  16:40  
that's the thing to me. I only want to go there for like five minutes. Go in peek around a little bit. I want to get the hell out of there. Because the thing is gonna be I mean, we're humans even there back then. Like if you know, of course. So there was no humans back there. You will be the only one. I mean, the dinosaurs might get scared of you to be honest with you.

Ant  16:59  
We like a little ant to them. Anyway, um, now.

Adeel  17:04  
We're clever. Yeah, man. I mean, I'd call back. I mean, it truly will be fascinating. I used to love Jurassic Park as a kid. So I think there's, there's some element of there will be cool to see them, like dinosaurs in the flesh to see what they actually look like. But I just be scared. I think I would only think I would survive. I don't think any of us would survive any

Ant  17:23  
Yeah, but the caveat here is that you're gonna come back safe. So that's what I'll go by. That's

Adeel  17:27  
a pretty big caveat. Right? You're saying like drop me in a shark cage and then they don't bite

Ant  17:36  
I would just be fascinated to see what really happened back then. Because it's just it's just so unimaginable that these massive creatures walked the earth. I was reading about like, you know them big. pterodactyls, or they have another name. I forgot the pterosaurs. pterosaurs, I think that's what it is. What have wingspan of what was it that we researched? 10 meter wingspan? 10 meter wings, or like a 30 foot wingspan.

Adeel  18:00  
They could travel like 10,000 miles. You were saying, right. 

Ant  18:03  
Yeah, that's crazy. I imagine being able to travel 10,000 miles. Just on your own back. Yeah, I just, it's just crazy. 

Adeel  18:12  
Is it any bird that can do that today? No. Right? It's impossible. 

Ant  18:14  
Right is impossible. Right? 10,000? Because wingspan is so massive. They can just glide forever. Basically.

Adeel  18:21  
It's incredible. That will be cool. If I could ride one of them that will be cool.

Ant  18:26  
You really think is dressing I don't know. And also another thing would be like, the way the Earth looked back then. Imagine how beautiful it would have looked all like the rain forests and like the wetlands and all that stuff

Adeel  18:44  
before we destroyed everything. Yeah.

Ant  18:48  
Apparently, one football pitch is dug up every every 30 seconds and the Brazil rainforest. Some crazy stat. Yeah, crazy. Is it? I'm gonna Google this as well. Fact check. Yeah, you're on it today. So since 1998, an average of 10,000 acres of rainforest has been destroyed every day. That's insane. That's crazy every day. 10,000 acres since 1990, on average.

Adeel  19:13  
And how big is 10,000 acres? Like compare that to like a stadium or field? Or is that like 10? Fields? 10,000 acres? That's a lot, right? It has to be like,

Ant  19:23  
you're really making me Google a lot now, isn't it?

Adeel  19:26  
I mean, trying to paint a picture for the audience

Ant  19:29  
is 15.6 square miles. 

Adeel  19:32  
15.6 square miles. square miles. That's interesting. I mean, what I can I don't know how big that exactly is, but it sounds pretty massive. But yeah, it will be cool to kind of go back and travel and see what life is like. I mean, there's no cars. You have to dress like a gentleman.

Ant  19:52  
It's pretty good, though. Yeah, yeah. Well, though, I hate wearing a suit.

Adeel  19:55  
That's true. I hate wearing a hater. You'll finally get to dress up

Ant  20:00  
I just don't feel comfortable in that man. Just but anyways.

Adeel  20:03  
Oh man. Yeah, it will be interesting. Completely different matters and a different different type of English. You could die from the flu though. Yeah, yeah, it is. Again, there's, there's just, I first off back then it was it was, it was simple, but tough 

Ant  20:19  
Imagine going back to like the Mayan civilization. I've seen what really went down, I think it'd be amazing to be honest to see what they were doing, how they were doing it, why they were doing it. But obviously scary at the same time, because you probably didn't have much food, clean water, housing, things like that. But to see how that civilization lived or experience it much how much you could learn so many mysteries that people don't understand why they did things the way they did them, or what was the motivation? What they really studied? What they really prayed to what they believed in? We don't know, we don't we know. We think we know. Imagine actually being able to live

Adeel  20:58  
now will be fascinating. I mean, even one or like Atlantis, figure it out, like what was actually over there was actually real? Yeah. Was it actually real? And is it a myth? Or is it an actual story to tell everyone about when we come back, there's some cool peers to go back to and travel to for sure. Want to go back to like, the Jesus era, Prophet Muhammad, I that will be sick. That's where I would want to go back. Like, as a Muslim, I would want to go back to the era where there's Prophet Muhammad I want to see like, was the man like, like, how everyone speaks of him? Was it all true? I would really want to figure that out. Actually, that will be super cool.

Ant  21:36  
You know, I never thought of that. But yeah, seeing like a prophet, or Jesus, these great people from the past, would actually be fascinating to me put it this way. They have inspired millions of people for 1000s of years,

Adeel  21:53  
the original influencers, the original leaders, legit, they have followers to this day, after all that and you know, my stance on religion, like I believe in God, I'm religious to an extent, but also kind of practical and think rationally about all things. So in my head is like, some of the stories some of the tales, they seem fiction. They seem fantasy fantasy. Exactly. So I'd want to go back and see how much of it is real? And is it just simply that there was such great men who inspired a following, because they were such incredible leaders? That will be a fascinating time, I'll be interested in that actually a lot.

Ant  22:37  
If you could pick one period of time to go back to I said, dinosaur era. I didn't say which part of the dinosaur era, the courageous dress, specifying? I'm just saying somewhere dinosaur era out go,

Adeel  22:49  
you're definitely knowing? Where would I go? Is that the question? Yeah. And I can't say the Prophet Muhammad there. Yeah, you can say whatever you want. Yeah, it has to be that one then Right? Because, as a Muslim, as a Muslim, like you, you hear these stories from a young age, you hear the tales of Prophet Muhammad, who is it for Muslims, the last prophet ever, the person who was so humble, so great, that became the leader for Muslims, and became a source of hope for that region. That I mean, the story goes that he was, he didn't come from a wealthy family, he wasn't educated. And yet his character was so strong that everybody loved him. And he was honest, and he was a warrior, and he was brave, but he was forgiving, and gracious, and kind. And there's so many stories that you hear from a young age that it didn't, you're enthralled by it. And that's why I would want to go back and kind of experience that. Even though I've had conflict with religion and Islam, from my life, in my life, that would just encompass me. Everything I've heard tails off from my childhood.

Ant  24:07  
You know, it's interesting, right? Where you go back to where you go forward to says a lot about you without really thinking about it. Like, what do you think that says about you that you would go to that period of time?

Adeel  24:19  
So big way that I identify myself? Muslim? I think, what's your perspective?

Ant  24:28  
Yeah, I mean, I think that's for you. I think that that makes a lot of sense. Like, that is a big part of identity. Did you really want to figure out? I mean, we did, the truthfulness of the identity, if you will, I don't know how to describe it. But you going back and experiencing that, that person yourself would really make you more attuned to that identity. If that if that makes sense. Is that fair?

Adeel  24:50  
I think so. It's kind of like me going back to my roots, my actual historical roots. It's like 23 You and me, but in real life. But you will go back to prehistoric era. What does that say about you? I'm not even sure what that means.

Ant  25:09  
Yeah, that's a good question. Like, if I think about it, it's kind of hard to answer. Why would I go back there? But I think it's more because of the fascination I had as a child. When I was a kid, right? You know, when you're at school, and like, we know, when you leave school, they might ask you, what do you want to be when you grow up? And you're like, 10. And then most people are I want to be a fireman, or whatever the hell they say, or I want to be a vet. I remember I wrote in my leaving book when I was like, 10 years old. I want to be a paleontologist. That dream obviously died. Failing, it doesn't mean it's true. But I just was fascinated with it as a kid. No idea why just loved it. I guess that fascination isn't it hasn't really gone. I just I'm fascinated by what was before us. And I guess it makes me understand how not irrelevant we are. But how insignificant even I am as a person. When I think about how grand these other things were? Just casually, you know, populating the earth. I guess it gives me a sense of like perspective of who I really am or what impact I really have.

Adeel  26:19  
Yeah, I think with the question, I think what's baked into that is you realize how trivial you are, or how trivial our existence is. I mean, in the course of history, what I mean, it's been 1000s of years, and how long has it been around like billions of years?

Ant  26:36  
Again, your testimony isn't like 8.6 billion Yeah, 8.6 billion years? I don't know, I'm gonna Google it as well. I

Adeel  26:42  
know, it's I know, it's like, a mad number. From my point is I mean, you can look it up. But regardless of what point is that, if you look at the 4.5 billion years, 4.5 billion is what is our lifetime, it's nothing is nothing of nothing. Like we let's say we live to like 100, even if you live till 200, that will be completely inconsequential. So meaningless. Our lives could be a grand scheme of things.

Ant  27:12  
Well, it depends on how grand your life is, for example, Jesus, the prophet Muhammad, as you mentioned, these people, I would argue their life, probably somewhere between 40 and 80 years old. Okay, somebody less than eight years old, is I think it's fair to say, especially Jesus, right, he was, if he believed stories, he died them much younger than 80. Right. So that would argue that's not insignificant. If I'd argue that's actually really significant. So it depends on the impact you leave. But I guess if I were to go back and see, you know, ancient prehistoric history, I guess it would humble me. Maybe, maybe there's something about that, that I like, I like being humbled. I like being shown a different way. I like being like, understanding that, you know, it's not about me, there's more important things is this grander thing, there's more bigger things and concepts and ideas, and then what I have of myself, I think I like that. Maybe that's what it used to be five really, like, deep,

Adeel  28:14  
you know? And yeah, I'm thinking about my original answer, right? If I was to go into the future, and while I would have picked that, and I think that's just because I thrive off of hope, is because I like the idea of what hasn't happened yet. Because it could be anywhere, could be anything, we can take this life, this world, as far as we can. I just don't know where that's gonna go. But that excites me. And it also makes me way more curious about what's to come next. And I think embedded in that is the trivial nature of our lives. Most people's lives will be forgotten. But I think I'd like to work on my life and leave a legacy behind. I can't compare to Jesus Christ, Prophet Muhammad or Aristotle, Socrates, any of them. But I'd like to try. And I think that's kind of what the ethos of calm talks is, right? So leave a legacy behind, that you will be remembered far beyond your time,

Ant  29:18  
I can actually understand why you would say, you'd go into the future. Because I know you, and you're very much a dreamer, you believe anything is attainable, nothing can stop you, you're gonna go out and get life. So I understand why you would look into the future because it's more aspirational. I can understand where that full process is going. That makes a lot of sense. You know, I'd actually ask the listeners now, we've kind of gone around the houses here, go back, would you go back in time and go forward in time? And what period and why? What does that really mean? I'd ask the listeners, ask yourself, where would you go? Would you go back would you go forward? Where would you go, what period of time and why and what What does that say about you? That's the most important thing. Maybe we'll give you a bit of introspection about yourself. If you think about why you chose to go forward and back, and what that really means to you. And you know what? Let us know. Hit us up on our social media at com talks on Instagram. You can drop us a message and let us know what you think we have been having people reach out to us recently and we really appreciate everybody reaching out to us. We'd love to hear from you where you would want to go future or our past and where and why. They must know where you are on your journey. And no matter what happens, stay calm.

Adeel  30:45
Thank you for listening to another episode of calm talks. And just as a reminder, if you like what you heard, don't forget to subscribe and leave a review.

Ant  30:51
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Adeel  30:57
And as always, stay calm.

Episode intro
The choice between traveling to the future or the past
How far can humans go in the future and how far have we already come?
If you want to travel to the past, how far back in time would you go?
What period of history is most interesting to you?
What does your choice say about you?
Episode summary